nagpo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:05 am
When I said Tremonti is doing amazingly, I didn't just mean the band, I meant him in all his musical fronts. Tremonti has simply made better career decisions. It's really rare and hard to have a career last as long as mark's without relying on the stuff that made you famous in the first place. Mark keeps reinventing himself and that keeps his career alive.
Then you should have said he's doing alright, and I wouldn't have disagreed with you.
There is nothing amazing about Mark's solo career. He's basically been releasing the same
decent at best album since 2012 again and again. All those songs kinda sound the same, they all follow a similar formula, and the fact that they're all produced by the same producer doesn't help.
IMHO, Mark pushed himself much more creatively during the 1997-2007 era.
Choosing to work with the sampe producer for 15 years was the biggest mistake of his career. 99% of other musicians know what, and they generally switch things after 2 or 3 albums, in order to get a new point of view and some fresh ideas.
Dolo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:36 am
The formula for AB has been pretty much the same for 18 years and with a few exceptions (like maybe bringing Mark to sing lead or introducing keyboard sounds on WTS) all the records sound similar (especially those from 2010s) sonically, musically and lyrically. In case of Tremonti, I can kinda see why you could make a case for Marching in Time and A Dying Machine sounding more refined and interesting than say All I Was, but it's not a world of a difference.
Mark is a really gifted musician and has written some incredible music in his career but the last thing you can say is that all of his records sound very different.
Agreed.
Timotheus wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:46 pm
I'm sorry, but he's an awful frontman nowadays. Even back in his prime it was a matter of taste and you kind of had to go along with it, but I can't remember seeing a video of him from the last 10 years where I genuinely believed him. To be really frank, the way he acts on stage is either comical or painful to me. And that's coming from somebody who enjoyed Stapp's early performances.
I agree Mark is not a frontman by nature, and he's not a fantastic live singer, but at least he's passed the bare minimum level of not looking like a clown.
Well, let's agree to disagree. I wasn't a fan of Stapp's 2009-2013 performances, because he was restraining himself and didn't own the stage as he used to. Nowadays, when I watch a video of his, I think he's doing a
good enough job with his moves and his voice.
He's just a natural on stage, and he knows how to talk to a crowd and how to keep them entertained.
The whole thing's an act, that's for sure, but that's show business for you.
Look at AC/DC: do you believe a 60+ year old guy would wear a school uniform by choice? It is comical and ridiculous, but that's what fans want to see.
nagpo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:51 pm
Stapp gave in to the pressure to do creed songs post-creed. He knew that's where the money was and that's what people wanted. He didn't stick with his new content. He has tried new types of music, the dub-step song from last year and the AoA that ended in a sort of tragedy. (If ANYONE knows what is going on with that lawsuit please let us know) space between the shadows had a lot of new types of sounds in it too like in Red clouds.
But he doesn't stick to this live. He bills himself as the voice of creed. He should've just went by "Stapp" and only played his own songs. It sounds funny but it would've worked better in the long run.
In theory, I would agree with you, but I think he would have ended playing to 100 people a night in bars and small clubs if he had refused playing Creed stuff.
People just aren't interested in his solo stuff. His albums don't chart, and neither do his singles. I'm surprised he still bothers to release new music, actually.
As for the lawsuit, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up selling his Creed royalties to pay the AoA twins. I guess we'll know soon.
Andy92 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:27 pm
It just kinda blows my mind that some people think Stapp’s post-Creed career has been…good? He literally tours as what is basically a Creed cover band.
What's actually wrong with that?
People loved Creed.
He's giving them what they want, which is the essence of live music.
He'll just always be the Creed guy, so why would he waste an opportunity to please nostalgic crowds and support his family?
Also, I think his cover band is actually better than 2009-2010 Creed. Those years were embarrassing, both vocally and musically.
At least, Stapp is respecting the original tempos and tunings.