This was why The Great Divide was his best solo materialchtimixeur wrote:Eh, I'm not impressed.
This sounds like a continuation of the Slow Suicide and The Madness formula.
For me, this kind of tunes doesn't allow him to shine vocally, and I wish he released slower songs where he tells a story with his baritone voice, like in the old days.
As to the video, it looks very cheap, and the lipsycnhing is pretty bad, but who cares about that in 2019? It's not like millions of people are going to watch it anyway.
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Albnum is called "The Space Between The Shadows" and is coming this July. Meaning AB will probably be in december
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How is the new AB dependent on Stapp's solo work? it's gonna be out by fall.nagpo wrote:Albnum is called "The Space Between The Shadows" and is coming this July. Meaning AB will probably be in december
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It shouldn't be. Besides, Napalm Records timed all three albums made by AB or from an AB member well last year. Year of the Tiger in March, A Dying Machine in June, and the Royal Albert Hall DVD in September. It's not like the diehard fans in the AB fanbase would be generally invested in a Scott Stapp solo album as oppose to a Myles solo album or a Tremonti album.Dolo wrote:How is the new AB dependent on Stapp's solo work? it's gonna be out by fall.nagpo wrote:Albnum is called "The Space Between The Shadows" and is coming this July. Meaning AB will probably be in december
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Press release:
I just realized there's echo on his vocals like on the AB and Tremonti records. Totally unneeded IMHO
Grammy Award-winning, multi-platinum songwriter, vocalist, and frontman Scott Stapp has will release his new album, "The Space Between The Shadows", in July via Napalm Records. The visualizer video for the disc's bombastic first single, "Purpose For Pain", can be seen below.
"The Space Between The Shadows" documents a five-year journey to find meaning — and redemption — in a world where shadows lurk and the space between is a gauntlet towards the light. It is Scott's manifesto of lessons learned in the six years since his last release, yet listeners will find their own solace, hear their own frustrations, feel hope, revelations, victories and losses.
"'Purpose For Pain' is about seeking a higher meaning, a spiritual mentality when dealing with our struggles and life’s painful moments," says Scott. "There are unexplainable, dark times that everyone goes through, and that pain is real. If we can dig deep and hold on to hope during the most difficult situations, believing there is a purpose waiting for us on the others side, we can find meaning and clarity that gives us the strength to keep fighting."
Stapp is known as frontman for CREED (over 50 million albums sold worldwide), and for his work as a solo artist who released the platinum-certified "The Great Divide" (2005) and "Proof Of Life" (2013), which featured his first solo Billboard No. 1, "Slow Suicide".
Scott will embark on a cross-country summer tour in late June. Tickets for the first leg go on sale Monday, March 25.
Tour dates (more to be added):
Jun. 20 - Oshkosh, WI @ Waterfest Concert Series
Jun. 21 - New Buffalo, MI @ Four Winds Casino Resort - Silver Creek Event Center (on sale March 29)
Jun. 22 - St. Charles, IL @ The Arcada Theatre
Jun. 27 - Detroit, MI @ St. Andrew’s Hall
Jun. 28 - Toledo, OH @ Civic Music Hall
Jun. 29 - Boardman, OH @ Ribs-N-Rock Festival
Jul. 10 - San Antonio, TX @ The Aztec Theater
Jul. 12 - Houston, TX @ House of Blues
Jul. 13 - Dallas, TX @ House of Blues
Jul. 14 - Oklahoma City @ Tower Theatre
Jul. 25 - New York City @ Sony Hall
Aug. 02 - Boston, MA @ Wilbur Theatre (on sale March 29)
I just realized there's echo on his vocals like on the AB and Tremonti records. Totally unneeded IMHO
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That is a weak name for an album.. Between Shadows sound much better.
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His vocals need A LOT of help nowadays imho.chtimixeur wrote:
I just realized there's echo on his vocals like on the AB and Tremonti records. Totally unneeded IMHO
Even on the AoA record he sounds "tired."
He and Myles both have that nasal issue going on.
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I think he sounded good on the AoA album. Not so much on this new song, but it may be because he's going for notes he could never reach, even in the Creed days.
I've never noticed he had a nasal issue, whereas this has been annoying me a lot with Myles over the last few years.
I've never noticed he had a nasal issue, whereas this has been annoying me a lot with Myles over the last few years.
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lol it's not. I was just saying that because AB is recording now and SS finished recording a long time ago. So it takes a long time to market and release an album. Which has me thinking it will in december when the ab record will come out. has nothing to do with SS. I was just talking. Sorry for the confusion.Dolo wrote:How is the new AB dependent on Stapp's solo work? it's gonna be out by fall.nagpo wrote:Albnum is called "The Space Between The Shadows" and is coming this July. Meaning AB will probably be in december
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Right on, man, I get it. I don't know how long it takes to release and market an album, but I've seen situations where the mixing was done in April and album was released in June. With ABIII the album was done in April and released in late September with a single in July.
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What direction should he be going for? Something more relevant?Timotheus wrote:It's not as hilariously bad as Proof of Life, but don't get why he's trying to sound like bands that Creed influenced 15 years ago, and stopped being relevant about 9 years ago.
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I don't know. Stick to what you're known for with slow / moody post grunge or do some The Doors type of music, considering he's such a fan and his voice would sound great doing stuff like that.
Anything but this... He's clearly targeting the active rock charts and it just doesn't feel genuine.
Anything but this... He's clearly targeting the active rock charts and it just doesn't feel genuine.
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I agree timo. The type of music I fell in love with originally he doesn't make anymore. Even lyrically he just isn't the same.
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One of my biggest criticisms of Stapp is that he doesn't "write" his own music. Lyrics, yes. Music, no.
It's hard to formulate music to specifically suit your voice when you're not even the one writing it.
That's what makes Tremonti so great and this is something that Stapp, as a musician, should have resolved long ago.
Your job is to create music. Pick up a guitar and vow that you will become one of the best at creating and writing with it.
It's hard to formulate music to specifically suit your voice when you're not even the one writing it.
That's what makes Tremonti so great and this is something that Stapp, as a musician, should have resolved long ago.
Your job is to create music. Pick up a guitar and vow that you will become one of the best at creating and writing with it.
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Especially since it failed big time in the charts in the past.Timotheus wrote:Anything but this... He's clearly targeting the active rock charts and it just doesn't feel genuine.
1. IMHO, there's nothing great about the band Tremonti. It's Alter Bridge with metal riffs, the songs structures are formulaic, Mark is still an average singer in the studio (and a bad one live), and the band members don't particularly stand out to me.That's what makes Tremonti so great and this is something that Stapp, as a musician, should have resolved long ago.
Your job is to create music. Pick up a guitar and vow that you will become one of the best at creating and writing with it.
2. A lot of singers can't write music. That doesn't mean they're not talented.
A lot of musicians can't write interesting lyrics or be a good frontman. That doesn't mean they're not talented either.
That's why Creed was so great: it combined Mark's (then) incredible music with Stapp's (then) incredible lyrics/voice/stage presence. Whether they like it or not, these guys were meant to write with each other.
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I agree with much of your post but in response to the bolded comment, wouldn't part of their talent in that situation be being able to pick music that suits your voice or write lyrics that do so as well? And I think that's kind of where stapp is failing, as well as still playing creed songs at your solo shows in 2019.chtimixeur wrote:Especially since it failed big time in the charts in the past.Timotheus wrote:Anything but this... He's clearly targeting the active rock charts and it just doesn't feel genuine.
1. IMHO, there's nothing great about the band Tremonti. It's Alter Bridge with metal riffs, the songs structures are formulaic, Mark is still an average singer in the studio (and a bad one live), and the band members don't particularly stand out to me.That's what makes Tremonti so great and this is something that Stapp, as a musician, should have resolved long ago.
Your job is to create music. Pick up a guitar and vow that you will become one of the best at creating and writing with it.
2. A lot of singers can't write music. That doesn't mean they're not talented.
A lot of musicians can't write interesting lyrics or be a good frontman. That doesn't mean they're not talented either.
That's why Creed was so great: it combined Mark's (then) incredible music with Stapp's (then) incredible lyrics/voice/stage presence. Whether they like it or not, these guys were meant to write with each other.
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I was hearkening to the collective body of Mark's work. I can see how that me saying "Tremonti" would be misunderstood.chtimixeur wrote:1. IMHO, there's nothing great about the band Tremonti. It's Alter Bridge with metal riffs, the songs structures are formulaic, Mark is still an average singer in the studio (and a bad one live), and the band members don't particularly stand out to me.That's what makes Tremonti so great and this is something that Stapp, as a musician, should have resolved long ago.
Your job is to create music. Pick up a guitar and vow that you will become one of the best at creating and writing with it.
2. A lot of singers can't write music. That doesn't mean they're not talented.
A lot of musicians can't write interesting lyrics or be a good frontman. That doesn't mean they're not talented either.
That's why Creed was so great: it combined Mark's (then) incredible music with Stapp's (then) incredible lyrics/voice/stage presence. Whether they like it or not, these guys were meant to write with each other.
Scott is talented, well, at least he used to be. Talented with writing lyrics and singing. But not creating or writing music.
That's what I was referring to.
Your last sentence has much truth contained within it. They were indeed meant to write with one another.
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I'm not sure a lot of gifted musicians are sending him instrumental music.nagpo wrote:wouldn't part of their talent in that situation be being able to pick music that suits your voice or write lyrics that do so as well?
He certainly has to deal with what he's being offered, and most of it is probably generic.
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Which was why the AoA thing was a good idea in theory. I liked the album and he was working with some talented people. He should try something like that againchtimixeur wrote:I'm not sure a lot of gifted musicians are sending him instrumental music.nagpo wrote:wouldn't part of their talent in that situation be being able to pick music that suits your voice or write lyrics that do so as well?
He certainly has to deal with what he's being offered, and most of it is probably generic.