I'm going to correct myself. I hear some of the main riff in the second part of the verse as well. Wish it had been a bit more prominent in those parts, but oh well...Aside from the chorus (and the main riff), I don't find the song to be very catchy as a whole. I don't find the verses memorable, and there's really not much tying everything together, besides the chords of the main riff recurring in the chorus. I hope it will do well on the radio.
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anguyen92 wrote:Oh well. Deal with it.
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Okay song, not an instant classic though like P&K - although they're obviously very different things - totally agree with the 'where's the solo' comments.
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News flash: not every song has to have a solo (see In Loving Memory, Broken Wings, Words Darker Than Their Wings)
It wouldn't have saved it even if it had it anyway.
It wouldn't have saved it even if it had it anyway.
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Might not have saved it, but would've made it a bit more interesting.
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I’ll never understand why Mark isn’t singing the backing “ahhhh” parts during this. Would make it better to play live surely.
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Agreed. It would make the song sound more genuine. Come To Life or Open Your Eyes would not sound the same without the Mark backings.
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Song is a 5.5-6/10 for me. I will say this - one of my favorite AB choruses out of their more mainstream, radio tracks they've done in a long time. It's high energy and what a radio single should represent.
Here's my issue: this song is supposed to be the lead single, right? P&K is the first release, but this will be the radio track. Why not feature a song with some massive Mark solo as that lead single? AB's brand, to me, is soaring arena rock vocals and blistering, refined guitar work with two of the best soloists in the game today. To me, this song just feels "off brand" for a radio song. Not saying every song they ever release NEEDS to have a solo, but I think the radio ones probably should, tbh.
The comment I earlier was that I'm really going to enjoy this song for a short amount of time, and I think it's a good potential concert opener. But I don't think it has staying power, won't be listening to it much outside of this album cycle.
Edit: yes, the above is nitpicking, after 15 years of fandom I think I can do that every now and again I do enjoy the song, like I said I think it's catchy. Doesn't shrink my excitement for the album at all, just didn't help build it more.
Here's my issue: this song is supposed to be the lead single, right? P&K is the first release, but this will be the radio track. Why not feature a song with some massive Mark solo as that lead single? AB's brand, to me, is soaring arena rock vocals and blistering, refined guitar work with two of the best soloists in the game today. To me, this song just feels "off brand" for a radio song. Not saying every song they ever release NEEDS to have a solo, but I think the radio ones probably should, tbh.
The comment I earlier was that I'm really going to enjoy this song for a short amount of time, and I think it's a good potential concert opener. But I don't think it has staying power, won't be listening to it much outside of this album cycle.
Edit: yes, the above is nitpicking, after 15 years of fandom I think I can do that every now and again I do enjoy the song, like I said I think it's catchy. Doesn't shrink my excitement for the album at all, just didn't help build it more.
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Are my ears broken? Not only do I really like the song, I could hear a fair amount of backing vox from Mark and thought Myles sounded good. I can't say anyone's opinion is wrong but it's frustrating when it feels like I'm listening to a completely different song that everyone else.
tl;dr - Great lead single, best since ATP in my opinion. Not AS good, but best SINCE.
tl;dr - Great lead single, best since ATP in my opinion. Not AS good, but best SINCE.
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I'm pretty sure it's double Myles.
Anyone else now worried about the mixing on the album? Silver Tongue isn't clean at all - sounds pretty muddy with the whole wall of song making an unwanted comeback.
Anyone else now worried about the mixing on the album? Silver Tongue isn't clean at all - sounds pretty muddy with the whole wall of song making an unwanted comeback.
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Yeah, even the first couple of seconds with guitar only, there's something wrong with it already and the drums haven't even played a note yet, as if there was too much compression on it or not enough gain.MylesKennedy69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:04 pm Anyone else now worried about the mixing on the album? Silver Tongue isn't clean at all - sounds pretty muddy with the whole wall of song making an unwanted comeback.
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For me it’s less about originality or radio friendly.
I just want a solid song. For me a catchy song counts for a lot.
Haven’t heard the song yet though.
I thought Heroes by Shinedown was a great song so if it has similar vibes to that maybe I would like it.
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Completely different song though particularly the drums, so completely different vibe. Just the chords progression and choice of notes over it. And the simplicity of it all.cheesedip1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:02 pmI thought Heroes by Shinedown was a great song so if it has similar vibes to that maybe I would like it.
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I'm still waiting for midnight because I'm too old and lazy to mess around signing up to a VPN
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Very much hoping for a music video given its the radio single.
Let this be an exercise in how to face your fears
Step into the realm of madness if you dare, my dear
Step into the realm of madness if you dare, my dear
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i did NOT see / hear that chorus coming
whoa
i can hear bits of odr, blackbird (coming home?), and fortress (bleed it try and the uninvited)
coincidentally or not those are my three favorite ab records
this 'not listening to anything until release date' thing is going great
whoa
i can hear bits of odr, blackbird (coming home?), and fortress (bleed it try and the uninvited)
coincidentally or not those are my three favorite ab records
this 'not listening to anything until release date' thing is going great
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First reaction. I quite like it actually. I wish that first guitar riff came back and the chorus could be more.... I don't know.... immediate.
Other than that, it's pretty cool and there is a fair amount of complexity being sneaked past the listener.
Other than that, it's pretty cool and there is a fair amount of complexity being sneaked past the listener.
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disagreeTimotheus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:49 pmI'm going to correct myself. I hear some of the main riff in the second part of the verse as well. Wish it had been a bit more prominent in those parts, but oh well...Aside from the chorus (and the main riff), I don't find the song to be very catchy as a whole. I don't find the verses memorable, and there's really not much tying everything together, besides the chords of the main riff recurring in the chorus. I hope it will do well on the radio.
i've only listened to it once and that ascending chorus melody is already stuck in my head
edit: since it's essentially the lead single, it's my favorite lead single from them since isolation (and beats the last couple handily)
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Dang man. Where is Mark in these vocals? That chorus and pre-chorus are begging for Mark on the harmonies.
Also, side note. Mark's distortion sound has been heading towards a more fuzz-based sound for a while now. This is almost totally a fuzz tone now.
Love the low-octave chorus before the final loud one too. Myles sounds so good in that register.
EDIT: Yeah man. I like this shit. It's a simple song but it's done well. Looking forward to the album.
Also, side note. Mark's distortion sound has been heading towards a more fuzz-based sound for a while now. This is almost totally a fuzz tone now.
Love the low-octave chorus before the final loud one too. Myles sounds so good in that register.
EDIT: Yeah man. I like this shit. It's a simple song but it's done well. Looking forward to the album.
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song absolutely rips imo
going to make for a cool opener
going to make for a cool opener
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I think I like this track very much.
As I am travelling through Asia at the moment impossible for my to have a final judgement, as I always form that by sound through speakers and not earphones.
But to be honest I think I can hear a sound that would have made TLH a so much better album.
Very happy with the 2 tracks so far.
Positively surprised after the last 2 album-disappointments. For me this could become the comeback-album of my fav band !
Just beceause in some kind of way the melody and easy flow in the songs seems to have returned in the songwriting.
Hope that will come true for the complete album.
Fingers crossed.
As I am travelling through Asia at the moment impossible for my to have a final judgement, as I always form that by sound through speakers and not earphones.
But to be honest I think I can hear a sound that would have made TLH a so much better album.
Very happy with the 2 tracks so far.
Positively surprised after the last 2 album-disappointments. For me this could become the comeback-album of my fav band !
Just beceause in some kind of way the melody and easy flow in the songs seems to have returned in the songwriting.
Hope that will come true for the complete album.
Fingers crossed.