Pawns & Kings (Alter Bridge - VII)

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AB4Lyfe wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:08 pm It’ll play well to Reaction channels. Which in this age is as good as radio.
But will Lost In Vegas react to it though? :lol

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SHEAKENBAKEN wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:11 pm
AB4Lyfe wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:08 pm It’ll play well to Reaction channels. Which in this age is as good as radio.
But will Lost In Vegas react to it though? :lol
The Alter Bridge team has been in contact with them in the past - I bet they tap into that again.
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Im not feeling this. Very concerned. Myles' second album was good but didnt get a ton of play. Slash and Tremonti both put out albums I dont care for. This isnt a good start for me.
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Finally getting around to reading all the reactions here now that it's out, and while it's not truly 100% positive, it's pretty damn close. Really nice to see everyone so positive and united for a change here - people will always have different opinions on music and that's fine, but the last two albums were just really divisive, for better or worse. I can't remember such a big, favorable vibe like this since the Fortress days. Count me in with the people who are thrilled with what we just heard - I was grinning ear to ear the whole time on my first listen. :peace

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AB4Lyfe wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:08 pm It’ll play well to Reaction channels. Which in this age is as good as radio.
This is actually a very interesting point.
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What I like:
.the instrumental stuff
.vocal chorus melody
What i dislike:
.lyrics. i don't like political lyrics. and besides the content of the lyrics i don't think they are good anyways outside of a few lines.
.melody outside of chorus. it's not strong.

the band is kinda showing their age to me. myles especially with his lyrics and strained voice. it's just an okay song. i just compare their newer content agains their older music. you could sing along to it, the lyrics weren't ambiguous political nonsense, and the music had more character because it was simpler. It had more focus on melody instead of focusing on complexity. I know every word to watch over you and sing along with it. This? I'll rock my head a bit with the guitars but I feel nothing else towards the song. Almost indifferent. I evoked no emotion from pawns & kings. well, probably maybe distaste.

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AB23 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:45 pm
AB4Lyfe wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:08 pm It’ll play well to Reaction channels. Which in this age is as good as radio.
This is actually a very interesting point.
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I listened to the song once and I'll leave it at that until the release. It's curious that they'd release the last song of the album first. Although AB has never done a real concept album, their last couple have had sort of a theme throughout with the final song kind of capping off the album, so this gives me a idea of how hits record might trend.

The length of the song and its complexity make it pretty hard to be familiar with it after one listen. Like Monty said, nothing really sticks right away, and for me it's because there's a lot there to take in, other than it overall sounds sort of Fortressy to me. I'm sure that more listens will bring more context and familiarity to the song as a whole, but I'll save that for October.

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Man, it's a joy to see this fan base so excited for this song, album and band of course. Quite jealous.

The song... I never expected a song like this to be released for the first single. Good decision!
What a great song, I'm loving it. Probably one of the best lead singles, if not the best.

I'm not a fan of the production,though. Loud and exhausting.
But let's see the rest of the album, I'm curious.

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The little guitar parts in the bridge at 3:27/3:38 reminds me so much of the part at 3:23 in Slayer's Angel of Death for some reason :lol

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The vocal melody in the bridge is just so Symphony of Agony…
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Man.. if you're complaining about the production on this song then I think there is no hope for you. It is a MILLION TIMES better compared to TLH when listening with headphones and on large speakers. I honestly didn't have an issue with WTS production. I thought it was fine. TLH was just.... a mess. This sounds about on-par with Fortress. And Fortress was a banger of an album.

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The new single is below average in my opinion. It sounds like something we'd get on a B-side years ago. I'm still optimistic and looking forward to listening to the rest of the album.
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gbruin wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:49 amIt's curious that they'd release the last song of the album first.
"The last shall be first" - Myles Kennedy :lol
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alterchris wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:18 am The new single is below average in my opinion. It sounds like something we'd get on a B-side years ago. I'm still optimistic and looking forward to listening to the rest of the album.
That's really funny to see opinions like that (which are totally legit, of course). Tastes are just so different, you can never please everyone. Pawns & Kings is for me as far from a b-side as it could be, even after the hype right now I'm sure I will like that song more than most of the songs on Blackbird or Fortress even though I love these albums.
Complex, melodic, 2 solos, nice chorus... for me this song has absolutely everything I wish for in an epic AB track.

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Yeah, saying it’s below average is probably the worst take I’ve seen yet.
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Pretty shocked at the mixed reaction here to be honest. Personally I thought I was not gonna enjoy any new AB anymore after being let down by TLH and WTS but this single is very solid at the very least. Hopefully the rest of the album is equally as solid.
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Even if people dislike the song, I hope they can appreciate the intention behind releasing a song like this first, as a lead single. It's more bold than they've been in the past.
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It's difficult to get airplay with the lenght of this song and this song would not be my choice for a first single... I hope the rest of the album will do it for me.

I had the same issue with "If Not For You" by Tremonti.

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