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Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:41 pm
by Felypesh
Jim wrote:I'm gonna let that one slide ^ because it could refer to all of his solos... Felypesh you're walking a fine suspension line my friend
WHAT, I'm talking about general Myles' solos :shrug

edit: Oh you said that at first, well that's what I tried to say

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:43 pm
by cheesedip1
----Sometimes, long ago, after first buying an album, I would look at the lyrics first for fun so that I could try to figure out in my head maybe what the song was gonna sound like. It was fun having my brain fill in the blanks of how the song could possibly be like, sound like.

But most of the time nowadays I listen to song first, then lyrics if there are some lyrics that I dont understand.

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:48 pm
by cheesedip1
Ubik wrote:I'm more interested in hearing another Myles solo that I can listen to repeatedly on its own without getting bored than high notes.

I just want the album to be good, really.

Granted, for me that probably means at least some guitar solos.


An AB album without guitar solos would seem out of place for them.

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:57 pm
by cheesedip1
Andy92 wrote:
Lotha wrote:Well it's not like it's prog and you can't predict where a song will go. Especially when it comes to AB, we all know their little tricks and preferred song structures by now. I mean I hope it's surprising but a review won't spoil it, for me at least.
Listen if we got a review from Shea I would know the BPM of every song, the frequency response of the crash cymbals, and how many times Mark also says deny as the backing vocalist.
Don't give him to too much credit. Honestly, I dont think Shea knows how to count the BPM. ;)

But hey what do I know?


EDIT: double/triple post --- My bad

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:11 pm
by SHEAKENBAKEN
cheesedip1 wrote:Don't give him to too much credit. Honestly, I dont think Shea knows how to count the BPM. ;)
Nope. No clue how. I'd try to find a website that tells me it.

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:56 pm
by dFhimz
SHEAKENBAKEN wrote:
cheesedip1 wrote:Don't give him to too much credit. Honestly, I dont think Shea knows how to count the BPM. ;)
Nope. No clue how. I'd try to find a website that tells me it.
The trial and error way is to figure out the actual beat division (duple/triple), get a metronome going and change its speed until it lines up with the tune

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:46 am
by jonten99
"let me eat from this slice of pizza while waiting for the pizza i ordered"

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:49 am
by anguyen92
Edited: Since the post above has been changed, I shall follow suit.

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:05 am
by AB4Lyfe
You did what you did, just please do not further discuss it on the board until the album has been officially released.

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:29 am
by anguyen92
Nice edit, Axlar. Who would want to eat pizza while waiting for pizza to be delivered? Wouldn't that ruin the appetite when the pizza does come?

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:40 am
by axlar
anguyen92 wrote:Nice edit, Axlar. Who would want to eat pizza while waiting for pizza to be delivered? Wouldn't that ruin the appetite when the pizza does come?
thank you.. also nice one.. and i don't think you should have edited your reply to the person, as i think it was a nice reply.. haha

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:56 am
by fix
^ Haha amazing.
I'm very hungry though. Three more weeks! (or less in case of a stream)

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:17 am
by DonHarry
Just going back to the 'Leaks hurt sales' comments. Could it not be argued that those that obtained it illegally would have done it on release anyway? All it's changed is the date they download it surely? Hypothetically, if I were to purchase an album but it leaked, I wouldn't personally have any moral conflict downloading a leak because I know I've already paid for it. I was always under the impression most of the coin was generated through touring, is that correct?

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:26 am
by axlar
DonHarry wrote:Just going back to the 'Leaks hurt sales' comments. Could it not be argued that those that obtained it illegally would have done it on release anyway? All it's changed is the date they download it surely? Hypothetically, if I were to purchase an album but it leaked, I wouldn't personally have any moral conflict downloading a leak because I know I've already paid for it. I was always under the impression most of the coin was generated through touring, is that correct?
yes it could be argued, but, by downloaing a leak you sustain the leak and widespread the leak.. many people will obtain the album through a leak opposed through purchasing it.. yes.. *most* people here will probably purchase it anyways, but that doesn't make an illegal activity legal.

Also it takes away a lot of the buzz a release day should bring.. which will hurt sales numbers and social activity numbers.. which influence radio and other media again..

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:39 am
by DonHarry
that doesn't make an illegal activity legal
Of course not.
Also it takes away a lot of the buzz a release day should bring.. which will hurt sales numbers and social activity numbers.. which influence radio and other media again..
Perhaps, but in theory it could increase ticket sales for shows occurring nearer release. How can I articulate this....When I got to a show, I like to know the songs so I can sing along etc, I enjoy it more if I know the material. If I go to a show and they're playing music I haven't heard, or have only had the chance to hear a couple of days prior I would enjoy the new material less because I can't interact with it until I know it. This might make me less likely to attend a show close to release. I'm just playing devils advocate. On the whole, I always think exposure is exposure. Like if casual fans download it and never had any intention of buying it, and it turns out they really like the album then they might go and see them. Obviously that scenario would not be possible if they hadn't obtained the album in the first place. It's indirectly generating interest that might only have existed for die hards and the morally sound.

Thoughts?

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:31 am
by fix
Well my biggest 'problem' with it, aside from it hurting sales or not, is that you facilitate and support leaks because you give the particular site or medium clicks/shares/ad revenue etc...

As far as hurting sales go, I think it will hurt a bit on initial release indeed, because it might dampen the buzz. But I don't know/have the figures to support that.

But before the payed streaming services (!), I discovered a lot of bands by illegal source because it was so easy to get hold of a lot of music. Bands I now support by going to concerts, streams and buying albums. So in the long run I don't know, but I agree with Axlar is can affect buzz on release.

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:37 am
by axlar
And with that this discussion about leaks is done until oct 7th. Let's bring this thread back on topic...18 days to go! \o/

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:55 am
by fix
^ yeey! Do people have songs they look forward to most? Based on reviews/listening party?

I'm very curious to hear The Last Hero and The Other Side! :)

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:58 am
by DonHarry
I've heard that This Side Of Fate is killer. 6:48, which I believe is the longest song on the album.

Re: Official "The Last Hero" Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:01 am
by WaywardOne
How about that clip of The Other Side that they played on Eddie Trunk's show? Was that clip removed or is that considered legit? Sorry in advance if that one is off limits but that preview was absolutely unbelievable. So looking forward to The Other Side (which Mark said was his favorite!).