AB V

YouTube · Post by **Timotheus** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:59 pm

But let's be honest. If they'd write a bunch of experimental songs we'd never hear them live

Post by **Andy92** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:01 pm

They never come to my state anymore anyways, so I'll take the album lol.

Post by **Dolo** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:18 pm

Timotheus wrote:But let's be honest. If they'd write a bunch of experimental songs we'd never hear them live

Well, Blackbird, CoA and Fortress are songs which I consider to be quite experimental and we hear them live quite often. The thing that makes the guys not willing to play some certain tracks is probably some demaning vocal bit (that's down to Myles generally) or guitar technical stuff (The Damage Done?) not the song structure itself.

YouTube · Post by **Timotheus** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:26 pm

I was mostly kidding of course, but still.. The actual challenging songs like Fortress or Bleed It Dry took them a long time to practise to perfection and have only been performed a few times.

Post by **Dolo** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:28 pm

I sometimes write some complex songs myself, and then I suffer trying to perform them, so I feel their pain

Post by **Rosenblaetter** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:25 pm

Timo is right.... I've seen our boys twice in 'Fortress' era and haven't heard much of it. And I felt like they needed a bit more practice. Imagine what happens if they get more complex

Slip To The Void, Waters Rising, Calm The Fire - they are not really complex, they structure is not particularly complicated, yet no one cares because they are surprising, interesting and full of mood. This is where they should experiment freely. I only fear that it would require a lot of time and focus on Alter Bridge only - time and focus they can't afford right now. It's always about schedule these days.

Post by **Jaredr24** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:57 pm

Andy92 wrote:They never come to my state anymore anyways, so I'll take the album lol.

Agree 110% lol. I've only seen AB once in 2011 in Louisville and it was good but they've never been close to where I live since (which is strange because I live an hour away from Nashville and they never get good shows and venues there). But I don't really see AB touring again with Fortress unless it's around the same time they get back together to write at the end of this year or early next.

JSlade · Post by **JSlade** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:24 pm

Timotheus wrote:It would be cool if the new album had some over-the-top, almost theatrical moments. There aren't a lot of moments like that on the last albums, but the few moments where they did it, it sounded great. The bridges of Waters Rising and Fallout comes to mind, and in its own subtle way the intros of Calm The Fire and Slip To The Void have a theatrical element as well.

This x1000. I saw AB in Dallas in 2014 and it felt like the fucking world was ending when they played the Waters Rising bridge.

Post by **alteredme** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:33 am

When I first saw this thread I thought that a new album had been released without me knowing it. Don't give me a heart attack guys! Anyway, I'm glad to hear that one is on it's way even if it's a long as next year.

In the meantime I really wish that the "Live in Milan" was out to ease the wait.

Post by **nagpo** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:04 am

I'm sure the next album will be even heavier and more experimental than Fortress. That's just the direction they seem to be going in, even in their side projects, Slash and Tremonti are both in heavy rock bands. And AB is becoming more experimental with song formats and sounds.

I love this band and can't wait to hear the next one. But to be honest, I want Myles' solo record first...

Post by **alteredme** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:00 am

I'm the other way around, I'm looking forward to Myle's solo but AB V first. Looks like Tremonti will actually be first however, not complaining though! Love it.

Post by **One Drew Remains** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:31 pm

Eh-Be-five!

Post by **AllC392Was** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:49 am

We've got a LLLLOOOONGGGGG way before this album hits the shelfs.

Post by **anguyen92** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:55 am

After reading a couple of Dream Theater threads, one thing popped into my mind. If Flip or Brian had an idea for a song or a lyric, would the whole band go for it and make a great song from it?

Post by **Roneit** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:17 am

You know what will be a big surprise? If AB V were not heavier than Fortress. If it is (and probably it will be), it's just predicable.

I just want a Mayfield Four album with guitar solos.

Post by **Jaredr24** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:27 am

Roneit wrote:You know what will be a big surprise? If AB V were not heavier than Fortress. If it is (and probably it will be), it's just predicable.

I just want a Mayfield Four album with guitar solos.

Agreed. I hope it's not heavier than Fortress. I think they know that heavy =/= better. They've tried to be heavier on every album since BB and it's getting old for me. Bands that say "our next album will be our heaviest yet" kind of get on my nerves. It should be more natural writing and not forced heaviness. I hope that AB V is more laid back with a few more ballads but we won't really know the direction they're gonna take until the end of this year more than likely.

YouTube · Post by **Timotheus** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:03 pm

I don't think they really tried to be heavier on Fortress.. It just kinda came natural to them. None of the heaviness on Fortress sounded forced to me.

Post by **SHEAKENBAKEN** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:17 pm

Timotheus wrote:I don't think they really tried to be heavier on Fortress.. It just kinda came natural to them. None of the heaviness on Fortress sounded forced to me.

And both Mark and Myles said themselves in the writing process they just wrote heavier riffs this time around because when mark brought them to the table; so did Myles (unexpectedly to Mark); so then they just went with it and the record was naturally heavier.

Post by **Roneit** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:49 pm

Yes, I remember the interview that Mark said that. It was funny, he said "ok, I guess we are going to this direction then..."

That is why Fortress it is so good. Just creativity and talent. They were not trying to do something, they let creativity process just flow.

Post by **anguyen92** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:50 pm

So I guess we're not discussing if they will go for a song that has Flip or Brian doing the songwriting/lyrics if they wanted to? All right, I see.

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