ALTER BRIDGE BOX SET

Post by **nagpo** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:46 pm

I disagree, there may still be things to discuss in this aftermath. But maybe a new thread is a good idea.

Post by **riemslag1** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:22 am

A new dc3 thread was opened last week

Post by **AB23** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:35 am

okay but gaiz in all srsness someone send me a rip

Post by **WkdSelina** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:15 am

I'm sorry but.... Is this for real? Did nobody proofread?

Post by **anguyen92** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:19 am

I was looking at that "This Plane Will Never Land" and I read below it. Oh my goodness.

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. This is ridiculous. Some people say AB as only one word "Alterbridge". Some people misspell Myles. I can't take it.

Post by **Ryan** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:36 am

It was like that on the DVD it came from, so nothing new.

Post by **Them Bones** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:44 am

AB BATMAN wrote:
Them Bones wrote:
AB23 wrote:
AB BATMAN wrote:@Them Bones:

Am I allowed to be self-righteous? Because you're right, DC3 didn't make it. But you're wrong about the band. They had no part in it, other than letting us film them.

You want to know who made it? A small group of cameramen, a sound person, and two editors. Once filming was done, those editors (myself and Leslie Atkins) worked day and night for a month to edit the picture and get it locked in time for the release that was supposed to happen in January. I even went so far as to come in nights and work for free after having quit the City Drive, so that it could get done.

So yeah, when someone takes something that I worked really hard on and was hardly paid for, and a lot of other people worked on and still haven't been paid, and then asks for it for free, it pisses me off.

YOU should grow up, and realize that when you ask for a rip, you are taking money out of people's pockets. Not rock stars or directors, but people who work damn hard for a living.
holy fuck this thread is hall of fame

I do not get your post or anyones here. Dint you read???????? I said, I'd buy it anyways that is if the product was released.The documentary is not released. Are you saying all those fans of the band out of the 3000 who bought the boxset will not get to see it?

And, all this jazz about musicians are struggling and do not want their music to go for free is total BS. I understand at its core level, cuz even Ive been a part of having a life in music and now with running a guitar store. At the end of the day, when a band starts whats most important for a band ? making their music known. They might wanna have a grand lifestyle, but they writ music to get out there, not essentially to make money. They dont care about getting paid. Ofcourse its important for musicians to be paid, the should be, but thats not the agenda of an "non commercial" artist right?right? . but nones gonna pay if they dont even know what the music is like.You get the point here? All those fans who care about the band are anyways going to end up buying the album or whatever, but all those who do not seem to care other than being a casual fan will not buy anyways.
So whats important here? To make most people know about your work and like it and turn into potential customers? Or keep to a small fanbase just cuz they have the money to pay for it?

You know eventually all of this material will be ripped and circulating, watched by many millions, generating their interest in supporting your "product". Nobody starts buying an album these days without having followed the band for a while. I myself am a collector of original discs and vinyls, dosn't mean I cannot keep checking all the free music thats around. If I really like something I'd buy it..

Oh, you run a guitar store? I didn't know that! Then you must know everything about how the music industry works. I'm sorry... I didn't know.

A few things though:

1) This is a DVD, not a music release, that you are asking about. It is a DVD which I had a part in filming and I had a huge part in finishing. It has nothing to do with music releases, other than that it is a film about a band.

2) Yes, the intended idea was that it is exclusive for the people who bought the box set. The idea is, in fact, that they get to see it and you don't.

3) This is a band that has barely made any money in ten years. They've mortgaged houses to buy out of contracts with old labels, and broken even on tours. They very much care about making money on the content that they release, because they are not some band starting out. They've been out for ten years, and three of the band members were previously in one of the biggest bands from '98-'02. They know what it is like to make millions and have lost millions.

4) Your argument is the same as every other douchebag who used and abused Napster and other file-sharing and streaming applications and forced the music industry to where it is today: barely alive. Keep up the good work!

Excuse me? lets keep it a little civil, if you trying to call me one indirectly, am sorry, but you are a douchebag.
Well, I understand that you have a point here, and no I won't be asking for a rip from any AB fans, I'll find it myself, but hey, you are right, file sharing shouldn't ideally happen, not even a bit then right? Your company am sure has no material on streaming websites whatsoever.

It wasn't an argument in the first place, I asked for something in an AB forum believing the fans wouln't mind sharing, but hey remain stuck up. I stand by everything that Ive written, and I know how hard it is for musicians/producers/directors these days, neither am I trying to justify any of my opinions to you. You don't wanna share, you can go fuck off, I'll find it anyways..

Post by **Ryan** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:01 am

Post by **Patty** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:38 am

I wonder how Them Bones would react if people just walked in and took his guitars and gear out of his shop without paying for it... Wonder if he'd call the police and report a burglary...

Post by **AB23** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:46 am

Guys. I really like the Stars. I've bought tickets to their games before. So someone give me a link to free season tickets cuz I really deserve that shit. Oh wait i'll find it anyway cuz im kewl

Post by **TremontiFan4Life** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:04 am

Them Bones wrote:You don't wanna share, you can go fuck off, I'll find it anyways..

That makes absolutely zero sense, if the only people that have it are people that bought the box set where in the hell else do you think you're going to find it? This entire conversation is pointless and the sad part is you don't have the common sense enough to end it. I normally agree with some of the stuff you say with heavy emphasis on some but in this situation it just seems like you're trying to justify your position and what you really need to do is put it to rest and move on

Post by **AHart96** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:13 am

hey gaiz, don't mean to start anything, but award idea for the end of the year: douchebag of the year. think about it

Post by **TremontiFan4Life** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:16 am

no contest

Post by **gbruin** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:30 am

AHart96 wrote:hey gaiz, don't mean to start anything, but award idea for the end of the year: douchebag of the year. think about it

Yup. Winner.

Just ban this guy already, mods. He's openly asking to steal material and cursing at a variety of people who call him out. How does he make TABN better?

waiting for a response to prove my point...

Post by **AndrewW500** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:32 am

Nope. Dan still wins that award.

Post by **BastiMix** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:55 am

I don't wanna stir things up, but this is getting way too far now if you ask me and to me it's more than ridiculous... (originally posted in Army of 12, not from me though)

Post by **TremontiFan4Life** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:01 am

who was that to?

Post by **BastiMix** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:02 am

Mike Kuzmenko

Post by **AB23** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:14 am

guys im not a douche okay im misunderstood

Post by **TremontiFan4Life** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:15 am

How exactly is he taking money out of the bands pocket? I can't remember was he the first one to ask for a rip?

To try to get back on topic a little bit, I decided this morning that I would pull out the fortress webisode DVD, while there is some stuff I haven't seen before the more and more I dig into this thing the more reused content I see. It saddens me that this has been put together this way and it seems like there's nothing that we as fans and consumers can do about it. Had I known that I was going to be paying for a lot of duplicate content not related to what I already owned but I'm talking about in the box set itself I never would've done what I did.

I tweeted Mark already saying that I hope that in the future they find another company to work with, I don't know if it'll make any difference unless a bunch of us got together and did it but hey I tried. What if we started a petition? For the good of this band I don't think it's a wise decision for them to continue a working relationship with DC3

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