Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

A place for all Creed discussion.

Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Yes
27
68%
No
13
33%
 
Total votes: 40

User avatar
Andy92
You Waste Your Time
Posts: 12957
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:52 pm

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Andy92 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:53 pm

I don't think it's quite fair to blame Benson for the vocal issues on Full Circle lol.
Image

Them Bones
Hardcore TABN'er
Posts: 841
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:34 am

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Them Bones » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:25 am

Not completely, well, we all know Stapp was nowehere even close to being his best when Full Circle was being recorded, but yeah, production wasn't great either.
Over thinking, over analyzing, separates my body from my mind..

User avatar
MidnightToker
Isolated
Posts: 457
Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:12 pm

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby MidnightToker » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:26 pm

nagpo wrote:I wonder if this recent news means the supposed lawsuit against wind-up is over.


I was wondering the same thing. If so, I'd be on no more Creed ever. I think that had something to do with the legal issues with Wind-Up, although that's just my speculation
Image

User avatar
JaredWard
Blood Machines
Posts: 15709
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:08 pm
Location: Ohio
Contact:

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby JaredWard » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:50 pm

I have some Benson/Stapp stories :lol but out of respect for my sources I'm not going to blab.

Shortman45
TABN.com Citizen
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:27 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Shortman45 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:50 am

JaredWard wrote:I have some Benson/Stapp stories :lol but out of respect for my sources I'm not going to blab.

Booooo, you can't hold out on us! :(

nagpo
On The Rail
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:11 pm

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby nagpo » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:25 am

lol please blab

mastermyx
Bought The CDs
Posts: 52
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:41 pm
Location: Salem, WI

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby mastermyx » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:17 am

JaredWard wrote:I have some Benson/Stapp stories :lol but out of respect for my sources I'm not going to blab.


are these stories from when Creed recorded Full Circle or more recent?

User avatar
JaredWard
Blood Machines
Posts: 15709
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:08 pm
Location: Ohio
Contact:

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby JaredWard » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:47 am

Full Circle. I won't go into the stories (or my sources) but basically Benson and crew said that Scott is the most burnt out singer they've ever dealt with and his short term memory is nearly gone. Needless to say he had a lot of trouble in the studio and it took forever to record vocals. Within a half hour into the sessions his voice was pretty much shot for the day.

chtimixeur
On The Rail
Posts: 1112
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:15 am

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby chtimixeur » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:54 am

Damn.
Thanks a lot for those inside stories.
Now, more than ever, I really want to know what happened to his voice in 2009.
What did he do to his vocal chords to have so many problems ? Why hasn't he addressed the issue since then ?

JaredWard wrote:Within a half hour into the sessions his voice was pretty much shot for the day.

I remember on this board, when Full Circle came out, a member guessed which songs had been recorded early in the sessions, and which ones had been recorded at the end of the studio sessions when his voice was shot. You could litterrally hear his voice deteriorate from song to song. I've already tried to find that post back, but I couldn't find it.

The memory issue is also quite scary. He's not even 40 and he's having that kind of problem ? Is that a consequence of his past drug abuse ?
But I can't say I'm surprised : sometimes, during interviews, he seems to be on automatic mode, and during live peformances, he's sometimes out of it for no reason (he screwed up during the Faceless Man breakdown a couple times in 2009 and 2010, and in 2012, I remember he forgot one verse at the beginning of Wash Away Those Years).

nagpo
On The Rail
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:11 pm

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby nagpo » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:46 am

drugs will fuck you up mang

mastermyx
Bought The CDs
Posts: 52
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:41 pm
Location: Salem, WI

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby mastermyx » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:46 pm

The memory thing I suspected and was kind of surprised was not very obvious, that fall he took off the balcony and cracking his head, that can cause major memory issues/behavior modifications. Exhibit A: Gary Busey, he had a major motorcycle accident and head injury and ever since he's been wacky.

Shortman45
TABN.com Citizen
Posts: 106
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:27 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Shortman45 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:28 pm

Thanks for the info Jared. You could tell in some songs on Full Circle that his voice deteriorated song to song.

That doesn't surprise me. His voice was in bad shape then. I wonder what he is like now with his improved voice.

I also remember reading in Scott's book that he went out drinking/partying/something else during that time that he had to apologise for, I wonder what that was about and if it affected his voice.

Them Bones
Hardcore TABN'er
Posts: 841
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:34 am

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Them Bones » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:14 pm

Depression is another factor that can lead to a lot of problems, physically and mentally.
apart from the drug/alcohol abuse, a bigger factor in Stapp's personality change, vocal issues and memory issues imo is because of depression. The guy has been through a lot, things he was responsible for himself, and all the things he was put through by others.. Even now, the shit that he gets is too much. Stapp was a great frontman, what I see it as, and call me whatever the fuck you guys wanna call, people around him are more than responsible for destroying his life to a huge extent.. Its very evident now how hes been treated and who did what. you ask me? Stapp was easily targeted in the past and made to look bad more than was needed.
Over thinking, over analyzing, separates my body from my mind..

User avatar
Ryan
Blood Machines
Posts: 29745
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:41 am
Location: Los Angeles
Contact:

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Ryan » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:51 pm

I think the head injury has more to do with it than depression...could've even be the cause of some of the depression too.
Photobucket cash grab.

User avatar
Marcos
Site Admin
Posts: 601
Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:48 am
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Marcos » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:39 pm

Good Fight must've been the last song of the last session...

He sounds horrible on the Santana song too...

But he did sound good during their last tour.
Image

nagpo
On The Rail
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:11 pm

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby nagpo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:43 pm

Good Fight was was bad for multiple reasons, not just the vocals. My least favorite creed song.

Them Bones
Hardcore TABN'er
Posts: 841
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:34 am

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Them Bones » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:03 am

Ryan wrote:I think the head injury has more to do with it than depression...could've even be the cause of some of the depression too.


Stapp has been in depression for years.
I say that with personal experience and being on the road to recovery.. Depression is serious, can cause great damage to your mental and physical health, it is probably the most underestimated disease.. In some serious cases of depression, a person's natural functioning of the body can go for a toss.. Their physical actions, they seem like they have sorta less control over their movements, memory lapse is common in depression, your breathing goes for a toss(cause for vocal problems), your self-esteem is at an all time low... these are just some of the problems that are relevant in Stapp's case... it really can mess a person up if not treated.. You see, depression attacks a persons's brain directly. Every function in your body is first and foremost controlled by your brain.
Over thinking, over analyzing, separates my body from my mind..

User avatar
JaredWard
Blood Machines
Posts: 15709
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:08 pm
Location: Ohio
Contact:

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby JaredWard » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:14 am

Marcos wrote:But he did sound good during their last tour.

Starting out lol his voice quickly went down hill as the tour progressed but that was expected I guess. I'm not really getting my hopes with his new album.. there are so many reasons why. I'll probably have some more stories from those sessions since he's working with Mike Plotnikoff again. I haven't heard who's producing though.

User avatar
AB4Lyfe
Achilles
Posts: 5195
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:17 pm
Location: My 'Fortress' is in Seattle, WA

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby AB4Lyfe » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:46 pm

Drugs are bad, mkay?
Image

User avatar
Andy92
You Waste Your Time
Posts: 12957
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:52 pm

Re: Should Scott Stapp form a new band ?

Postby Andy92 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:17 pm

Scott on Twitter today:
Back In Nashville, working in the studio recording new tunes. Really feeling inspired today..

#SpreadLove
Image


Return to “Creed”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest