Devil Inside You wrote:I think where most fans are upset is in the way Mark addresses Creed outside of Stapp. He usually refers to Creed as something he's embarrassed about because of how "simple" or "straightforward" Creed was (those are his words). I personally don't blame him for Creed not being active, and I never will after Stapp's meltdown in 2014. However, just look at that interview clip someone posted in this thread. Mark does seem to have preference to Alter Bridge and Tremonti because both have more critical praise than Creed. And that's fine, Alter Bridge and Tremonti are excellent examples of modern music in a time where Lil Pump and Cardi B exist. However, just because Creed was critically panned doesn't mean Mark should invalidate the millions of fans and followers the band still has. He clearly knows the value in songwriting so its not a technicality thing of Creed over Alter Bridge/Tremonti. I just wish someone would tell him when you have something that connects with over 50 million people, the opinion of some guy from Rolling Stone, Blabbermouth or Pearl Jam is worth less than nothing.
GREAT post, mate. I couldn't say it better.
Jhenrid wrote:However, the difference between you guys, and the Creed fans is at no point has Mark undermined or diminished your role. And this is an exaggeration, seeing as Mark loves all his fans. However, no one is calling to question Mark's commitment to Alter Bridge or his appreciation of Alter Bridge's fans. The same cannot be said for Creed.
I don't think AB fans would appreciate it if Mark said It made me angry when people would call us 'Alter Bridge Part 2'
or 'Now we're Creed, we're no longer those Alter Bridge guys.'
Well you can't really say there's 50 million fans. Not to mention he has pretty much said that the demand for Creed isn't actually that high. When they did those last Creed tours they didn't really sell like they thought it would.
I've always felt that Mark took Creed's success for granted.
Their 2009 and 2010 tours didn't sell out for many reasons:
- the economy was really bad
- they hadn't released a new album in 8 years
- Full Circle didn't sound like old Creed, and its singles were average at best. None of them made a real impact on radio. Creed 1.0 was a radio band who built its huge success on huge radio hits.
- Stapp's voice was shot, and with Youtube, it was easy to know it before buying a ticket.
- do you remember those crazy fast tempos? The band just didn't play those songs the way they should have.
- Stapp's hair was gone
. I know it can sound ridiculous, but I remember reading some comments about Creed getting a new singer, because casual listeners didn't recognize him.
Dolo wrote:Well, actually, he cares about the fans but that's not a good thing either. He is selling bullshit like 'Our fans seem to enjoy those epic tunes so we're making a couple them this time', 'we couldn't make a totally keyboard-based album because fans would kill us' with Walk The Sky. Other bands don't give a crap about what the fans want and that's how you develop and evolve.
I totally agree.
One good example is Metallica. They've never cared about what their fans wanted, and the best example is Load/Reload. Everyone wanted The Black Album 2.0, and Hetfield & Ulrich chose to record music they actually liked instead.
The latter Led Zeppelin albums are another great example. When you're a musician, you should always follow your heart instead of thinking too much about what's best for your career.