Dolo wrote:It's strange how the perspective can be different, because as much as I love Human Clay, I much prefer Mark's later guitar work, some riffs off Blackbird and ABIII are absolutely mint in my book. But I definitely agree that his songwriting in overall has become quite stale. We don't get much of the Blackbirds, Fortresses, New Way to Lives, Slip to the Voids and Cry of Achilleses these days.
Hey, I like AB too, don't mistake me. There are songs I love on every AB album, even TLH, but there are also a lot more fillers and subpar material than on any Creed album IMHO.
Some riffs Mark wrote are badass, but you can easily waste a good riff in an average song if you build it with a formulaic structure in mind.
I strongly believe Mark released way too much music over the last 10 years. There was no need for him to record every single riff he ever wrote, it was a bad idea from the start.
And as I've said it many times, his whole Tremonti catalogue sounds like a blur to me: it feels to me like I'm hearing the same song over and over again, most of his thrash riffs are very similar and predictable, and when he tries to do epics with that band, they sound like a watered down version of AB's epics.
George wrote:It really seems that his sense of "good music" is based on its complexity
music is not complexity
I fully agree with this.
That's one of the reasons AB's recent singles don't work in an acoustic setting.
There's beauty in simplicity, and just because your song doesn't include a fast/banging riff or a legato solo doesn't mean it's more commercial.
Devil Inside You wrote:I do think for a very long time Mark was embarrassed of Creed.
I've also noticed that. His body language often says it all, and ever since AB became a band, I rarely saw pride on his face when Creed was mentioned.
Devil Inside You wrote:I do think as the years go by he's come to appreciate Creed's songwriting approach more than he did after the first break up. More Than This, Devil Inside You and the Nameless Ballad all sound just like classic Creed, he's playing their music more (Torn, With Arms Wide Open) and he revisited the shelved Creed V album and said he really liked it.
I'm not hearing any classic Creed on the new tunes they rehearsed in 2012. It was more moody, but that's about it: the songwriting was not in the same league as the first 3 Creed records. More Than This also sounded very formulaic, and almost like a parody of someone trying to write My Sacrifice 2.0.
I also remember that on one of Stapp's videos from Mark's house, Mark was playing something very thrashy on guitar which sounded NOTHING like Creed. If that's the kind of material he was aiming for on Creed, frankly, I have zero will to hear it.
Just because Mark has 13 songs intended for Creed V does not mean they're any good, and he shouldn't release them if they're not up to par with the first 3 records.
If they ever release another album, they should take their time with it, and write it as a duo, as they did in the old days. But for that, they would need to spend time together to reconnect as human beings (or dare I say friends), and I doubt Mark has any time for this to happen with AB and Tremonti taking so much time of his life.
Deep down, I think Creed is one of those bands that requires you to give it 100% of your time and attention. You can't half-ass things, or else everyone will notice.
The bottom line is: If you can't do it right, don't do it