Scott Stapp Public Statement (Updated: On Nightline Tonight)
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And, He has been robbed of royalties in the past is a fact, the reason Tremonti had sued Wind Up as well. In all of this there is something fishy, am sure Stapp is tripping balls and creating problems for himself, but there definitely is something more to this story apart from Stapp's addiction issues. Nothing can be so off.
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Scott Stapp Interview MT
http://www.spreaker.com/user/mtrs/scott ... terview-mt
The website says the interview was on 19 Jan 2015. Any idea whether this is actually new?
Wait i just heard Scott mention June tour. It's an old interview.
http://www.spreaker.com/user/mtrs/scott ... terview-mt
The website says the interview was on 19 Jan 2015. Any idea whether this is actually new?
Wait i just heard Scott mention June tour. It's an old interview.
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So it's true: no news were good news in this case. Thanks for sharing!
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would like to hear something positive about Scott
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That is pretty positive... could be a lot worse.
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Finally some news:
http://loudwire.com/exclusive-creed-sco ... -in-rehab/
http://loudwire.com/exclusive-creed-sco ... -in-rehab/
Exclusive: Creed Vocalist Scott Stapp Completes Stint in Rehab
We’ve got breaking news about Creed frontman Scott Stapp that hopefully points in a positive direction. According to Creed bandmate Mark Tremonti, Stapp both checked into, and successfully completed, a stint in rehab.
In November 2014, Scott Stapp posted a self-made video claiming he was completely penniless and sleeping in his truck. Considering Stapp’s history with substance abuse and the singer’s overall demeanor in the video, many fans quickly assumed Stapp had fallen off the wagon. Those concerns were quickly supported by divorce papers filed by Stapp’s wife, which noted alleged drug use.
Stapp was later placed on psychiatric hold after threatening to kill himself. Stapp stayed for three days, but his estranged wife then sought a 60-day hold for the troubled musician.
Though Stapp’s Creed bandmates attempted to reach out and help, the singer continued to spiral downwards. He missed a court hearing, lost custody of his children and a 911 tape surfaced where Scott’s wife claimed he was on a mission to assassinate President Obama.
We haven’t heard anything about Scott Stapp’s condition since December, but earlier today, during an exclusive interview with Mark Tremonti, the guitarist offered a hopeful update on Scott. “Thank God he got through it all and his family got him into treatment. I think he went through a 90-day program. I know he went to get help and now he’s out of the treatment, so hopefully he stays sober.”
Tremonti added, “Family is the most important thing. You’ve just got to stay sober and clean and provide for your family and be there for your kids. For me, that’s what would always keep me out of trouble.”
We’d like to send our best wishes to Scott Stapp and his family during this significant time. Stay tuned for updates on Scott Stapp as news continues to flow in.
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I'm glad to hear this. I hope it sticks. I think he should probably see somebody on a weekly basis though, like a therapist or something. I hope he's able to get his life back on track and is able to see his kids eventually.
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I hope he doesn't rush things in order to come back to the music scene.
This was a serious alert, and he needs to take his time and focus on his health and family.
This was a serious alert, and he needs to take his time and focus on his health and family.
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chtimixeur wrote:I hope he doesn't rush things in order to come back to the music scene.
This was a serious alert, and he needs to take his time and focus on his health and family.
I think it'll be a long long time before we'll see him back to music again.
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Wow, this is some very good news. Probably would deserve an own thread.
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Glad to hear he received treatment. I'm betting that his treatment will extend beyond being in a facility however. I would almost bet that he's been instructed to stay off of social media and away from music for a while. He needs the most positive environment he can get right now and for the foreseeable future.
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This was a recent open letter to a celebrity by a woman suffering from "Depression". I will not be including names.
"Dear ..........
Ever since I heard about your coming out of the closet, so to speak, about your struggle with depression, I have wanted to write. I have swung between many personal and political issues concerning mental health since listening to you.
I had to remove your celebrity image in my head and look at you as a human being in order to write this. I've self-harmed as a child and continued through adulthood. Often, I have bouts of severe depression where I feel I'm choking for days or weeks, and then, as if with a flip of a coin, I spring up to a high and prance about like the world is mine before I hit a different nerve and drift way into a fantasy land of zombies, ghost and what not. I have my version of depression but that is not what my label is. The one I carry- Schizophrenia- seems to be every Bollywood director's favourite sell, to the point of having sometimes made a mockery of what someone like me deals with.
The day I came out of the closet, I knew I was going to be even more alone than I already am. As I emerged, I had very few models or mentors who have braved the stigma, and have carried the torch for decades, for people like me. More have begun to join in, and the number of people who feel they can speak out about schizophrenia is slowly growing. This has helped us know that we are not alone with the invisibility of our human condition that is called mental illness. Not alone in the lonely road of existential crises. Not alone as we fight with our caregivers to get them to understand we are people first and not 'disorders'. Not alone with our own stigma and the stigma we receive from outside ourselves too. When I thought about what it must be for you - all I could do was imagine the world you are in and the one you come from.
As you try to create awareness through your own experience, I write to let you know that you are not alone on this road either, even though in mental health advocacy, the journey is often a lonely one. I also write in to tell you of some of my concerns about how society deals with mental health - so different from other ailments. What many people don't know is that a person like me has no political or legal rights whatsoever. In the eyes of the law, I may as well be dead. I cannot vote, cannot marry, cannot sign a contract, and I can forget about getting a job.
Most importantly, I do not have the right to choose my own treatment. I can be forced against my will, be dragged into an institution to be locked away forever. I can be given electric shock therapies, have my brain cut open if someone sees fit, I can be raped and abused and the world will not know of me or what I endure. When I say 'I', I am not talking only about my individual story, but that of millions of women and men in India who suffer from mental health issues, and what we go through in the name of care.
It is an irony. If I have no rights even after treatment, why bother to get better? How has the system or society benefited me? If I have no say in my treatment and I can be dragged inside on the grounds that I am violent or dangerous - how is it that so many others who commit grave crimes walk free? Most of us have been victims of such acts either outside institutions or within the very walls of psychiatric institutions and facilities that are meant to care for and protect us. Yet, I am the one considered dangerous to society.
I continue being criticized as I fight for what I stand for. I simply ask for what is mine. That I should be seen as equal to everyone else with legal rights. I ask to be treated with dignity and respect, but just yesterday someone told me 'not all mad people are capable of thinking for themselves. They run away. They live on streets. They can be of harm to themselves or others.' I have been through all that, but it does not mean I am incapable of thinking.
People like me are incapacitated at many levels. A large number of youth are so diverse in their emotions, thoughts, intelligence, spirituality, but because we have no legal rights, we have often been guinea pigs for the medicalization of human experiences.
There are no biological markers or scans that show mental illness. No way to diagnose it beyond determining whether one is performing all personal, social, filial, professional roles ascribed to us. Society has a set of constructs that one must abide by and if we don't manage, the diagnosis is quick. To me, depression feels like having access to a range of human emotions that we are otherwise asked not to feel. It tells me that the world is not a beautiful flowery place and I am in touch with these 'negative' emotions and that it is okay to do so.
I call my Schizophrenia my experience, invisible to everyone else. I've described it as my heart having been broken at many levels, trying to get my attention, so that I listen to myself more carefully. This is what my diagnosis means to me. When I am feeling depressed, I tell myself that a part of me needs to let go. I weep and howl and break. When I am on a high, it allows me to simply love irrespective of any differences that I would have otherwise judged. When I panic, I'll strip in the comforts of my own room and jump around screaming to music. When I am anxious, I start cleaning my entire house. When I feel nothing, I am nothing. And when I am hyperactive, others tell me 'Why don't you take your medication? I ask them 'Why don't you take medication to understand me?
I am not dismissing the seriousness of mental health issues, nor am I romanticizing them. Far from it. By no means do I suggest medication is not a part of the solution, I simply want to the choice to take it to be mine, and not have it taken away from me. I don't want my depression to merely be 'treated'. I need it to be understood. I don't want to 'treat' myself but I want to be respected as a human being with the choice to say "yes" or "no" to a conventional treatment of medicines and to be given the range of support possible. It is not an ambitious choice. In my personal experience, the system in which treatment exists in India operates on the notion that people like me are outcasts in society. So isn't it logical to consider alternatives to institutionalized medical care that can at least help part of the way?
I do not expect you to take on our cause alone. I know too well that raising awareness amidst such stigma is an uphill task. But I write to you with the hope that through you, my voice will reach the very world that rejects us, because they accept you - where those who only look at me as a "disorder" will also be able to look at me as a human being.
I write to you for many reasons with pictures I should paint. I write to simply tell you my story, and also to tell you that my story is not unique. I write to say "thank you" for the care and compassion you have brought to speaking about depression and mental health in the open. What we need are listeners. So I write to thank you for speaking, and for listening.
Peace and colour,
................. "
"Dear ..........
Ever since I heard about your coming out of the closet, so to speak, about your struggle with depression, I have wanted to write. I have swung between many personal and political issues concerning mental health since listening to you.
I had to remove your celebrity image in my head and look at you as a human being in order to write this. I've self-harmed as a child and continued through adulthood. Often, I have bouts of severe depression where I feel I'm choking for days or weeks, and then, as if with a flip of a coin, I spring up to a high and prance about like the world is mine before I hit a different nerve and drift way into a fantasy land of zombies, ghost and what not. I have my version of depression but that is not what my label is. The one I carry- Schizophrenia- seems to be every Bollywood director's favourite sell, to the point of having sometimes made a mockery of what someone like me deals with.
The day I came out of the closet, I knew I was going to be even more alone than I already am. As I emerged, I had very few models or mentors who have braved the stigma, and have carried the torch for decades, for people like me. More have begun to join in, and the number of people who feel they can speak out about schizophrenia is slowly growing. This has helped us know that we are not alone with the invisibility of our human condition that is called mental illness. Not alone in the lonely road of existential crises. Not alone as we fight with our caregivers to get them to understand we are people first and not 'disorders'. Not alone with our own stigma and the stigma we receive from outside ourselves too. When I thought about what it must be for you - all I could do was imagine the world you are in and the one you come from.
As you try to create awareness through your own experience, I write to let you know that you are not alone on this road either, even though in mental health advocacy, the journey is often a lonely one. I also write in to tell you of some of my concerns about how society deals with mental health - so different from other ailments. What many people don't know is that a person like me has no political or legal rights whatsoever. In the eyes of the law, I may as well be dead. I cannot vote, cannot marry, cannot sign a contract, and I can forget about getting a job.
Most importantly, I do not have the right to choose my own treatment. I can be forced against my will, be dragged into an institution to be locked away forever. I can be given electric shock therapies, have my brain cut open if someone sees fit, I can be raped and abused and the world will not know of me or what I endure. When I say 'I', I am not talking only about my individual story, but that of millions of women and men in India who suffer from mental health issues, and what we go through in the name of care.
It is an irony. If I have no rights even after treatment, why bother to get better? How has the system or society benefited me? If I have no say in my treatment and I can be dragged inside on the grounds that I am violent or dangerous - how is it that so many others who commit grave crimes walk free? Most of us have been victims of such acts either outside institutions or within the very walls of psychiatric institutions and facilities that are meant to care for and protect us. Yet, I am the one considered dangerous to society.
I continue being criticized as I fight for what I stand for. I simply ask for what is mine. That I should be seen as equal to everyone else with legal rights. I ask to be treated with dignity and respect, but just yesterday someone told me 'not all mad people are capable of thinking for themselves. They run away. They live on streets. They can be of harm to themselves or others.' I have been through all that, but it does not mean I am incapable of thinking.
People like me are incapacitated at many levels. A large number of youth are so diverse in their emotions, thoughts, intelligence, spirituality, but because we have no legal rights, we have often been guinea pigs for the medicalization of human experiences.
There are no biological markers or scans that show mental illness. No way to diagnose it beyond determining whether one is performing all personal, social, filial, professional roles ascribed to us. Society has a set of constructs that one must abide by and if we don't manage, the diagnosis is quick. To me, depression feels like having access to a range of human emotions that we are otherwise asked not to feel. It tells me that the world is not a beautiful flowery place and I am in touch with these 'negative' emotions and that it is okay to do so.
I call my Schizophrenia my experience, invisible to everyone else. I've described it as my heart having been broken at many levels, trying to get my attention, so that I listen to myself more carefully. This is what my diagnosis means to me. When I am feeling depressed, I tell myself that a part of me needs to let go. I weep and howl and break. When I am on a high, it allows me to simply love irrespective of any differences that I would have otherwise judged. When I panic, I'll strip in the comforts of my own room and jump around screaming to music. When I am anxious, I start cleaning my entire house. When I feel nothing, I am nothing. And when I am hyperactive, others tell me 'Why don't you take your medication? I ask them 'Why don't you take medication to understand me?
I am not dismissing the seriousness of mental health issues, nor am I romanticizing them. Far from it. By no means do I suggest medication is not a part of the solution, I simply want to the choice to take it to be mine, and not have it taken away from me. I don't want my depression to merely be 'treated'. I need it to be understood. I don't want to 'treat' myself but I want to be respected as a human being with the choice to say "yes" or "no" to a conventional treatment of medicines and to be given the range of support possible. It is not an ambitious choice. In my personal experience, the system in which treatment exists in India operates on the notion that people like me are outcasts in society. So isn't it logical to consider alternatives to institutionalized medical care that can at least help part of the way?
I do not expect you to take on our cause alone. I know too well that raising awareness amidst such stigma is an uphill task. But I write to you with the hope that through you, my voice will reach the very world that rejects us, because they accept you - where those who only look at me as a "disorder" will also be able to look at me as a human being.
I write to you for many reasons with pictures I should paint. I write to simply tell you my story, and also to tell you that my story is not unique. I write to say "thank you" for the care and compassion you have brought to speaking about depression and mental health in the open. What we need are listeners. So I write to thank you for speaking, and for listening.
Peace and colour,
................. "
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It does seem to indicate that they are incapable of thinking PROPERLY though, and that's really the main point isn't it? If you can't be trusted to make certain core decisions like not to cut yourself or you're unable to function to a certain level, you're going to lose some of your freedoms so that others can attempt to do that for you. Sure, she can bring up the social injustices of other countries that don't have our laws, but that's what it all boils down to in the end.Them Bones wrote:but just yesterday someone told me 'not all mad people are capable of thinking for themselves. They run away. They live on streets. They can be of harm to themselves or others.' I have been through all that, but it does not mean I am incapable of thinking.
People that tote the 'awareness' flag around in my experience have very general statements that sound nice and people can get behind. "Of course I don't think people with mental illness should be raped!" *sign petition and share on Facebook* When it comes down to reforming legislation though and identifying what exactly needs to change, the lines get a lot more blurry and the arguments tend to fall apart on a situational basis.
Edit: After looking it up, it looks like this letter was written from a citizen of India so most of what I said doesn't necessarily apply.
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I think more than the article being about what they can or can't do, I feel it shows how lonely they can feel. Regardless of what laws a country has or hasn't.
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Thanks for posting that Them Bones, was an interesting read. The human brain is a wonderful and terrifying thing.
Very glad to hear he's doing better.
Very glad to hear he's doing better.
For all of the hope that it brings...
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Glad to hear Stapp is doing better. Hope to hear a public statement from him soon.
Thanks Andy!
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Hope this time is a charm. Keep him in your prayers.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/gen ... rehab.html
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/gen ... rehab.html
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Nah, I won't since I'm not praying at all...