Re: The Official SCOTT STAPP Thread
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:38 pm
"I've always thought that the B-3 organ added a lot to the original Creed sound."
What Creed songs was that featured on?
What Creed songs was that featured on?
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He is Creed. None of the other members care about it. It's essentially his brand and business at this point. There is no doubt that he would drop anything to do another creed reunion but the others, specifically tremonti, would much rather focus on other works.chtimixeur wrote:It is now almost certain that the Creed Instagram page is controlled by Stapp.
https://www.instagram.com/officialcreedpage/
At first, there were pictures of each member, but recently, Stapp's been in every single one of them, and he's now plugging his solo stuff and ignoring everything AB-related.
It seems like deja-vu.
He'll never get it...
It's the other way around. The other members don't care about Creed because Stapp thinks he is Creed. It's what drove them do break up twice.nagpo wrote:He is Creed. None of the other members care about it. It's essentially his brand and business at this point. There is no doubt that he would drop anything to do another creed reunion but the others, specifically tremonti, would much rather focus on other works.chtimixeur wrote:It is now almost certain that the Creed Instagram page is controlled by Stapp.
https://www.instagram.com/officialcreedpage/
At first, there were pictures of each member, but recently, Stapp's been in every single one of them, and he's now plugging his solo stuff and ignoring everything AB-related.
It seems like deja-vu.
He'll never get it...
Exactly this. If I were in their shoes, seeing this certainly wouldn't push me in the direction of wanting to "bring the band back together". I wouldn't blame them at all for wanting nothing to do with a reunion and to focus on their other works.Timotheus wrote:It's the other way around. The other members don't care about Creed because Stapp thinks he is Creed. It's what drove them do break up twice.nagpo wrote:He is Creed. None of the other members care about it. It's essentially his brand and business at this point. There is no doubt that he would drop anything to do another creed reunion but the others, specifically tremonti, would much rather focus on other works.chtimixeur wrote:It is now almost certain that the Creed Instagram page is controlled by Stapp.
https://www.instagram.com/officialcreedpage/
At first, there were pictures of each member, but recently, Stapp's been in every single one of them, and he's now plugging his solo stuff and ignoring everything AB-related.
It seems like deja-vu.
He'll never get it...
Well, Creed hat their best days way before social media emerged. The band died in 2012, their (or Stapp's?) first Instagram post is from 2019.chtimixeur wrote: It's not like it's popular anyway, and it still amazes me that they only have 12k followers.
Exactly. Stapp is most definitely not Creed. His solo albums prove that. A big part of the Creed magic was the Tremonti/Flip/Marshall sound. Stapp lives in the past and clings to Creed because it's by far the most successful thing he's been a part of -- by contrast, Alter Bridge has released 6 very strong albums since Creed first broke up. Stapp barely plays any of his own songs at live shows. He knows the vast majority of people only like the Creed songs, written in large part by Mark Tremonti. So please don't say "Stapp is Creed." That's ridiculous.Timotheus wrote:It's the other way around. The other members don't care about Creed because Stapp thinks he is Creed. It's what drove them do break up twice.nagpo wrote: He is Creed. None of the other members care about it. It's essentially his brand and business at this point. There is no doubt that he would drop anything to do another creed reunion but the others, specifically tremonti, would much rather focus on other works.
His solo albums prove that? His solo albums sound most like creed compared to alter bridge, who contrastly sound nothing like Creed. So if it was those three members sound that proved your point, then why don't those 6 albums sound like creed at all? And also, why doesn't Full Circle sound like creed? It's almost as if that record was written by tremonti, without stapp in mind - without the creed sound. That seems to be the case. Because the creed sound is the two of them working together. The band members even admitted to this, which is why they tried to recapture the original sound by performing the first two records live together with stapp, while preparing to record the 2012 record. And if you listen to Devil inside you and More than this, it sounds a lot more like creed than full circle did. These were songs written with stapp. Also, would you consider weathered to have the Temonti/flip/marshall sound? Because Marshall was not involved with that at all. In fact, brian and flip are not credited at all whether it's writing lyrics or music in any of the albums. Even with AB, Brian and flip mostly at best, have a advisory position when it comes to the writing. it's mostly myles and mark.MidnightToker wrote:Exactly. Stapp is most definitely not Creed. His solo albums prove that. A big part of the Creed magic was the Tremonti/Flip/Marshall sound. Stapp lives in the past and clings to Creed because it's by far the most successful thing he's been a part of -- by contrast, Alter Bridge has released 6 very strong albums since Creed first broke up. Stapp barely plays any of his own songs at live shows. He knows the vast majority of people only like the Creed songs, written in large part by Mark Tremonti. So please don't say "Stapp is Creed." That's ridiculous.Timotheus wrote:It's the other way around. The other members don't care about Creed because Stapp thinks he is Creed. It's what drove them do break up twice.nagpo wrote: He is Creed. None of the other members care about it. It's essentially his brand and business at this point. There is no doubt that he would drop anything to do another creed reunion but the others, specifically tremonti, would much rather focus on other works.
Just to add to this thought, and will go off topic, while that is obviously true, AB shares equal songwriting credit per the below. Usually, in the album booklets, it would mainly say all songs were written by Alter Bridge. Didn't specify Myles or Mark, which makes it pretty hard to distinguish who wrote what in Walk the Sky. I would say that if Flip or Brian had any motivation to write any song ideas at all for AB, and they are good ideas, I think it would help alleviate some stress for Mark and Myles' end given that they are writing for so many outlets.nagpo wrote: Even with AB, Brian and flip mostly at best, have a advisory position when it comes to the writing. it's mostly myles and mark.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge ... creed.htmlWhen the interviewer said: "It seems like early on in your career, the band agreed to share songwriting credit. I understand that you and Mark do most of the writing. Can you explain that decision to share credit and why you've stuck with it?", Myles replied:
"Yeah, that was a decision we made early on. It's one of those things where it can be tricky, trying to go through each song and [ask] who did what, especially when there's such a collaborative thing with Mark and I, so how does that work?
"We just figured it would be easier to just kind of have a broad stroke, 'Yup, the songs are written by Alter Bridge.'
"When we talk about it in the press, you kind of have an understanding that Mark and I are the songwriters.
"But what Brian [Marshall, bass] and Flip [Scott Phillips, drums] bring is their incredible gift and their feel to the backbone of the songs. The parts they inject the songs with do Alter Bridge-ify the tracks. They're very important. And they do a lot in helping dictate which songs and what ideas will make the cut.
"Mark and I will sometimes get too close to the genesis of the idea. It's great to play the tracks to those guys, and also producer [Michael 'Elvis' Baskette], and have them say, 'Oh, this is good' or, 'This doesn't quite work.' It's definitely part of the process."
If I remember correctly, Mark, Brian and Flip jammed together and gave new songs to Stapp at the end of each writing session. Then, he would go home and try and write some lyrics.nagpo wrote:why doesn't Full Circle sound like creed? It's almost as if that record was written by tremonti, without stapp in mind - without the creed sound. That seems to be the case. Because the creed sound is the two of them working together.
Yeah... He had plans to release a new record next year so if anything they'll just rename the tour or cancel it. I only see the reason why they haven't cancelled it is because of contracts and his label is based in germany, napalm, i believe. Europe is having a massive resurgence in covid right now which is probably what caused this. it can't be helped.Dolo wrote:On the side note, Stapp postponed his European tour until like.... early 2022. Is there any point in putting it off so far into the future? I'm aware of the current world situation but he's gonna lose all the momentum related to the album (if there ever was one).