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creed009 wrote:

AB23 wrote:The promotion was terrible and the label is killing it of course, but the quality of the music isnt really helping either

I'm not really sure why I even bother posting here. I think the album is great. I've already listened to it more than I listened to the Full Circle album. I just don't hear the same thing that other people on this forum hear.

Dan Dando wrote:

creed009 wrote:

AB23 wrote:The promotion was terrible and the label is killing it of course, but the quality of the music isnt really helping either

I'm not really sure why I even bother posting here. I think the album is great. I've already listened to it more than I listened to the Full Circle album. I just don't hear the same thing that other people on this forum hear.

Man, I'm sure I recall you saying once that you think Full Circle is better than Weathered. So... do you honestly think Proof of Life would be third if you were to rank the records involving Stapp in some shape or form - after Human Clay and My Own Prison. So... better than Weathered, Full Circle and The Great Divide?

creed009 wrote:From top to bottom, in the sense that I don't hear any bad songs on Proof of Life, whereas there are songs on Weathered and Full Circle that I have to skip when I listen to the album. Although the big hits on Weathered are still probably better than the songs on Proof of Life that I think could be hits.

But yeah, overall I think I would have to rank Stapp's albums as

1) Human Clay
2) My Own Prison
3) Proof of Life
4) Full Circle
5) Weathered
6) The Great Divide

Dan Dando wrote:

creed009 wrote:From top to bottom, in the sense that I don't hear any bad songs on Proof of Life, whereas there are songs on Weathered and Full Circle that I have to skip when I listen to the album. Although the big hits on Weathered are still probably better than the songs on Proof of Life that I think could be hits.

But yeah, overall I think I would have to rank Stapp's albums as

1) Human Clay
2) My Own Prison
3) Proof of Life
4) Full Circle
5) Weathered
6) The Great Divide

Mate, that's madness - but then you're entitled to that opinion, no matter how mad I think it is - But I refuse to believe that you think there isn't really a bad song on Proof of Life. I feel like you're maybe trying to fight Scott's corner because of all the negativity surrounding this album, because even Them Bones sees that POL isn't good at all, and that's saying something

creed009 wrote:And we probably at least agree that Human Clay is the best album that Stapp has been involved in.

Dan Dando wrote:

creed009 wrote:And we probably at least agree that Human Clay is the best album that Stapp has been involved in.

We do agree on that! I think that's why I'm so puzzled that there's such disparity between our opinions when it comes to one or two other things. For me... Weathered, Full Circle and The Great Divide are all imperfect records to say the least (albeit to a greater extent with FC and an even greater extent with TGD) but they're all still superior to Proof of Life.

facelessman07 wrote:Weathered at 5? Madness! Weathered is a FANTASTIC album. My personal fave from Creed, but there's a long story to that..

AHart96 wrote:The Great Divide (song) is better than anything off of Proof of Life IMO. Proof of Life is the worst thing Stapp has done so far

creed009 wrote:

AHart96 wrote:The Great Divide (song) is better than anything off of Proof of Life IMO. Proof of Life is the worst thing Stapp has done so far

The Great Divide (song) is great. But the other songs are just average at best and way too raw sounding for me.

Timotheus wrote:I think it's fair to say that "Marlins Will Soar" is still his worst song ever..

AHart96 wrote:

Timotheus wrote:I think it's fair to say that "Marlins Will Soar" is still his worst song ever..

I think Fear is a notch worse than that