I see your point on Summer, which is why I wanted to un-voted her last night. But the claim itself seemed really... odd to me? And then this post below...Timotheus wrote:If nobody counter claims, I'm not sure I'm willing to vote for Summer. I think she's suspicious, and I know it could be a mafia trap to find our leader, but it's our most important role. We can't just casually vote her out, if nobody else speaks up?
The Dissident - I think I believe him. The only way this doesn't work if the mafia didn't offer anybody a spot last night, like Incon said. For a player like The Dissident, laying low is a way easier (and I think better) mafia move. I'm not saying I trust him 100%, but he goes up my list.
It set off red flags for me too. And that she doesn't seem to want to talk it out with me, it just rubs me the wrong way. And she subtly tries to divert the attention onto Cam in that post, which is less than ideal. That said, if she is telling the truth, I wouldn't want Dalinar out of the game either.zazisaspaz wrote:Aww Timo, no worries if you guys kill me off, I might be important in the books, but here i just get to make a tyrannical kill vote, and clearly I don’t know who to vote for so no huge townie loss if it comes to that!
People keep questioning Micky which is good, because I frankly don’t see it... at least not yet. Anxious to see how today unfolds and possibly rescind my vote. Also, where has Cam been?
I agree, her reads list was actually really solid for the most part, though I did disagree on her Lotha take, and don't see how Lotha and Summer could be a team at this point, unless Lotha's vote was theatre and she didn't think it would catch on but... right now I don't see that. I don't remember exactly but Summer wasn't high enough on anybody's lists (I should make a spreadsheet to make this easier to remember) for mafia to pull something like that. Micky would be my next in line after Summer. I agree with Lotha that we don't really have anything super concrete, and it is just a tone read, but I don't know if him feeling like classic Micky is enough to keep him around, especially with people moving up in my list and claiming roles.Timotheus wrote:Ok, how do we feel about Silver? I don't agree with her points on Lotha, but that's because I know how Lotha plays. She's doesn't have the experience we have. For the rest I think she's done a pretty good reading on everybody.
I personally prefer voting for Micky.
I agree with this, I certainly couldn't have gotten there on a Lotha vote today. Do you think she was pulling a the move Summer pulled? "Lotha is more suspicious to me, but I'll vote Summer because it feels more likely" type of thing? Like she moved up in my reads after posting her thoughts, but I'm not sold on her yet, she's probably like... mid-neutral below Dissident after his claim? My reads list is basically a mess in the middle at this point. Anyway, I'm in the same boat, I don't think she would be my choice today.Ubik wrote:I also think that if she's looking to start a bandwagon... Lotha is a dumb person to pick? Like, nobody has her low, nobody's jumping on that. Having Summer there could be more in that vein as people were beginning to vote for her, but they were also beginning to vote for her for a reason. My thoughts on Silver are still that I'm wary of her, but that's mainly through past games and inactivity, rather than anything in particular she's posted. I'm still not willing to go there yet.
With Micky, I'm not convinced by what he's giving us, it feels like someone second guessing what they're writing. Take his view on my post above - I understand why on its own someone might think it a little odd, and it echoed what initially worried you, but I've given a fairly thorough explanation of it since and we've got some information out of it that the mafia would've known already, which now gives us a potential avenue to clear Diss or find a mafia.
I agree with the Micky stuff too. I do wonder if he sees in that specific quote what I see in you often (being concerned with how you come across in your posts), but I don't see that as alignment indicative for you (I've seen you do that as town and mafia), and I certainly wouldn't vote for you based on that. Especially not in this game. He didn't say that, it seems like his suspicion on you is how you make him second guess himself, which is... odd?
I think basically I need to rework the ordering of my list as well. I'll start there and move forward. Summer has left a bad taste in my mouth, but if she's being truthful about her role, I don't want Dalinar out of the game. Micky has been unconvincing and any sort of "clearing" I'm doing on him is a tone thing, which isn't really the best reason to clear somebody. For now I believe Dissident, Julianna shot up to the top of my neutral reads, Silver moved up some as well. I need to hear from Cam today because he's trending downwards just by virtue of others moving up.