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Timotheus wrote:
zazthespaz wrote:I'm just going to vote for whoever Tim says I should.
Woo! Ok:

https://www.facebook.com/newsyvideos/vi ... =2&theater

I love the top comment: "He's already spoken more about his policy than Trump"

In the republic party I'd go for Rubio, but Sanders easily seems to be the best bet in this scenario. He's ideas may seem pretty radical to some Americans, but it's really not that special from a European point of view. He also seem to be the most genuine. The "communist" insults always make me laugh, because he doesn't even close to actual socialism.
....yeah we're not European. GOSH TIM STOP BEING WRONG AND JUST SEND ME SNAPS OF THE BABY.

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zazisaspaz wrote:....yeah we're not European.
Nope, you're American. Freedom and liberty for the rich, the white and the powerful.

I wish I could send you more baby snaps, but my brother lives too far away so I can't visit them that often :(
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Yah TimTim nails it :lol
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Sumsum, add me on snapchat and ill send you baby snaps.
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Timotheus wrote:
zazisaspaz wrote:....yeah we're not European.
Nope, you're American. Freedom and liberty for the rich, the white and the powerful.

I wish I could send you more baby snaps, but my brother lives too far away so I can't visit them that often :(
Warning: It's about to get sassy
Ahh yes, thank you for the information about my country! I keep forgetting everyone in Europe commenting on the American elections also works for our school systems and nonprofit organizations as well! Please, keep telling me what you have seen firsthand here in America.
All done for now!

Don't make excuses Timo, just FedEx her to me then. I'll babysit fo free! FO FREE :D

Micky, you said you didn't go on snapchat that's why you didn't request me. Alsooo we all know that you'd end up sending like a million of the baby and a thousand of you and your girlfriend and a hundred thousand of random school stuff. Lessbehonest

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You don't have to be born into a rich family to make it in America. I've heard my mom tell stories of how my dad was making like $9/hour about 15 years ago. She wasn't working and my brother and I were kids. I went to an in-state college and got a good degree without any debt after graduation. Some colleges are greedy I'll admit, but you know you're signing up for disaster when you go out of state and accumulate huge debt for a degree that doesn't have a good job market. I've never experienced poverty, and I believe those families need help. But I wasn't handed a silver spoon either, and I think work ethic should still stand for something.

I won't say European countries do things wrong because I don't live there, and I haven't seen the effects of those countries firsthand. But if you want to understand America, try coming over here before you label us as a country only for greedy white people.
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^^ Andy's the voice of reason here. My parents came from Vietnam. Dad graduated from college with a degree in computer science/engineering or something. Made a decent living. Lived in a decent house in a very nice neighborhood for 20 years now. Manage to support two kids to get through college, one that ran into some debt, but manage to graduate with a degree in marketing and now working with one of the best hockey teams in the league, and one that had really no aspirations at all, during his first few years of school, but somehow going into his final year of school, hopefully graduating with a degree in accounting.

I concur with Andy in that some colleges are greedy and there are those that would not give you value at all for your money like those for-profit colleges. I got lucky with my college. Spent like a few years in community college for like a few hundreds for a semester. Went back to Cal Poly Pomona. Get like 14-16 quarter units for around $2,000 per quarter. To me, that's decent enough and everyone I talked to, I got a good vibe, regarding the classes and curriculum.

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Just because a person is rich, doesn't make them a crappy person. It could go either way. Same with being poor. It's not like every poor person is a saint. It really just depends on the person.

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You guys are messing with my self image of white guilt.

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Tomorrow my kids will get to skate on the outdoor rink at Coors Field that hosted the outdoor Avalanche-Red Wings game
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My parents didn't have much when they first moved to Belgium as well, and the first ten years of my life I didn't live in wealth. Same goes for Bernie Sanders by the way. I'm not saying there's no opportunity in the US (or in the Western world in general). I'm also not saying all white, rich people are all bad and greedy. I just think that opportunity could and should be a lot bigger. Not only in the US, but also in Europe. Having a work ethic is great, but try telling that to people who are working their asses off for a minimum wage. A huge majority of people who are born poor, stay poor. For some people it's just a lot harder to make it. Intelligence, education, environment and sadly also color play a huge part in that. Saying that social democrats want stuff handed to them on a silver spoon is just not true. They just want equal opportunity.

I don't see why I need to live in the US to have an opinion about who's gonna be the biggest leader of the world for the following 4 years. There's only so much you guys experience firsthand anyway. What I was saying in my first post wasn't an attack, just that I can put the word "socialist" in perspective, coming from a country that is a lot more left than you. FDR was called a socialist and a communist by the Republicans as well and that turned out pretty good.
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gbruin wrote:Tomorrow my kids will get to skate on the outdoor rink at Coors Field that hosted the outdoor Avalanche-Red Wings game
Sweet!!

Will you be accompanying them this weekend?
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Timotheus wrote:My parents didn't have much when they first moved to Belgium as well, and the first ten years of my life I didn't live in wealth. Same goes for Bernie Sanders by the way. I'm not saying there's no opportunity in the US (or in the Western world in general). I'm also not saying all white, rich people are all bad and greedy. I just think that opportunity could and should be a lot bigger. Not only in the US, but also in Europe. Having a work ethic is great, but try telling that to people who are working their asses off for a minimum wage. A huge majority of people who are born poor, stay poor. For some people it's just a lot harder to make it. Intelligence, education, environment and sadly also color play a huge part in that. Saying that social democrats want stuff handed to them on a silver spoon is just not true. They just want equal opportunity.

I don't see why I need to live in the US to have an opinion about who's gonna be the biggest leader of the world for the following 4 years. There's only so much you guys experience firsthand anyway. What I was saying in my first post wasn't an attack, just that I can put the word "socialist" in perspective, coming from a country that is a lot more left than you. FDR was called a socialist and a communist by the Republicans as well and that turned out pretty good.
My grandpa lived out of a tent for a few years during the Great Depression. Born poor but didn't stay poor because he worked his tail off. I realize that's not possible in every situation, I get it. But I guess I grew up in a family that didn't make excuses for everything.

Kev made a good point about community college. Some people snub their noses at it, but I spent my first two years there and actually got paid a little kickback in grants to go. It's a really affordable option to jumpstart a good career opportunity. But no, keep telling me why your $100,000 university degree in psychology should've been paid for with tax payer dollars because you had no foresight.
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And that's admirable, but there are plenty of people that worked just as hard as your grandfather, but who didn't get as far.

It's not about making excuses. It's about making a choice that profits everybody and not just a small percentage of the population (weirdly a percentage that already lives in wealth). I don't see why education needs to be fought for, or why detours need to be taken just because of financial reasons. People need to stop thinking in terms of money, but in terms of people. Billions of dollars have been spend on wars that didn't need to be fought. If the US can come up with money for that, I don't see why they can't make colleges more affordable.
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If you go to a university in your home state or start at a community college, it's affordable. Not all colleges across the country require the financial resources needed to attend Duke, Stanford, etc. Where is the responsibility on the individual to do a little research before signing up to these high-cost programs?

Ferrari makes expensive cars, but a lot of other companies make much more affordable options. So instead, I'll buy a Ferrari and campaign for tax payers to pay it off when I knowingly go in debt for it.
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Apples and pears. Education is a necessity, cars are not. And it's not that it's possible to do it the hard way, that it shouldn't be made more comfortable, especially when it's perfectly possible to do so.
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You can go to public school in America for 13 years, and it's completely tax payer funded. Is that not equal opportunity? I'll admit that we live in an age where college degrees are becoming more of a necessity to find a good job, but there are plenty of affordable college options. Low income students actually can get enough government grants to pay for community college tuition PLUS have some left over. I have a hard time coming to terms with college being too expensive when it's not ALL colleges charging high rates, it's just the big universities.
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There's a way, there's almost always a way as long as you keep trying, but again, when it comes to education, which is such a necessity, why making it so hard on the students? Students with financial problems aren't able to go to their first choice college, while in other parts of the world they would be able to. To me that's not equal opportunity.
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So by that logic, should law school and medical school be tax payer funded? Should I be able to get my doctorate in the same way? How much education can countries afford to grant all of its citizens as a right before the whole system goes bankrupt?
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Andy92 wrote:So by that logic, should law school and medical school be tax payer funded? Should I be able to get my doctorate in the same way? How much education can countries afford to grant all of its citizens as a right before the whole system goes bankrupt?
You can read on his site how Sanders plans to pay for his proposals: https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-be ... proposals/

We'll just have to see how he does today. It's gonna be exciting.
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