AB23 wrote:but I also have historical data from other countries that back it up. That data says that, regardless of the # of firearms in circulation, if you ban them, gun homicides will decrease.
The data does not say that. Not in Jamaica. Not in Ireland. Not in certain US cities. Not in any of the charts I posted earlier. Australia isn't a model case because it had an existing downtrend similar to what you're seeing in America above and England is an even worse example because you can see how low and steady their homicides have been, remaining almost level several years after implementation vs several years before. I'm too tired right now to look into which permits in France are for personal use and when that was instantiated because it's not apparent in a cursory search but Scotland COULD be the example you need because they've had a big drop in gun related crimes. However your only choices when looking at the data are gun related crimes or homicides with no indication of gun related homicides so I can't say for sure. Assuming it is, then you've got 1 example vs all the ones I've listed. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt that you could find more (which I'd like to see if you're going to cite them using data sources instead of quotes) the point is, your side of the fence is just as speculative, if not more so.
On a side note that you can decide is relevant or not, some of the countries with gun bans or strict gun control have the highest rates of robberies, sexual assaults, and assault with force. This includes Australia, England & Wales and Scotland.
I agree that you would likely reduce the number of suicides, at least by a gun, but I'm not sure how much of a victory that really is considering they're their own victim (yes, I know others feel the pain of their loss).